Sunday, January 29, 2006

 

Too far gone?

Some scientists predict that the tipping point for extreme climate change may have already passed, meaning that nothing can be done to prevent the inevitable cycles of nature from altering life on earth. Do you believe that all species face eventual extinction, or that consciousness will find a way to perpetuate itself before an irrevocable calamity changes the environment on this planet? How does your view shape your thoughts on reproduction?

Comments:
Is there any doubt that human beings will become extinct?
None whatsoever.
 
I think extinction is a inevitable for all life. If the question is when...a long, long time from now.
 
This question is silly
 
Take a breath, thats the first one you ever took. Your not gonna change from looking at the past, or do you change things from looking at the past?
 
For human beings to become extinct, you must prove they exist.
 
now shouldnt this qn be limited to analysis by 'scientists', since it was 'them' that made this comment ?
since i am one, a budding one in the least..i think ...
every species on this planet is conscious...its just that we havent built a detector to understand the varying mechanisms that they employ to communicate with each other and themselves...

it pains me when 'scientists' anounce that fish can communicate...one has to be blind to biology to come to that conclusion this late...

conciousness existed before the singularity did..

and yes i would like to breed as well..cos i wanna create more idiots like me..
 
I think a very powerful cabal have been using humanity to get their evil seed off the planet at the expense of all who are not them.

Once this is accomplished, they will let the meek inherit what is left of the earth.
 
It is the peculiar arrogance of humanity that our species thinks itself "special". Why do we insist that our passing will be some kind of tragedy?

It is one thing to know this, and another to observe, and try to comprehend the fervour with which we seem to destroy all life on this planet. We live as though the only purpose of our existence is to kill everything we know within the next twenty years.
 
The Sufi wisdom tradition has a saying: "Do you wish to develop new organs of perception? Increase your need, neccessitous one!"

They also have a tradition that consciousness was first housed in the land, then in plants, then in animals, then in our particular animal, and that it will eventually behoused in a form that we cannot imagine.

If we stress the environment to the point that rapid evolutionary changes are necessary for people to survive at all (or for cockroaches to become sentient) then that is what will likely occur.

If, however, women succeed in overcoming the enormous pressure men have put on them to breed recklessly and under every untoward circumstance of poverty, war, disease, absence of education, and every other form of support, then heyday! Maybe we can can reduce our ecological footprint to a reasonable and sustainable level.

But don't count on it. Men are far more interested in creating new ways of killing and enslaving women and children than in supporting and nurturing them.
 
humanity is not neccesarily the only "concious" being on this planet and certainly not the only one in the universe, but thats beside the point I do think that conciousness will survive, in fact i think that evolution will start again. Hell the next "us" could be gigantic flys that talk to each other with telepathic speach and have no interest in the other beings on the planet.
 
I think that conciousness is everywhere and will continue, evolution will start again with something else as its base. Dinosaurs were one base as far as im concerned, we were based on monkeys. Maybe itll be intelligent bacteria next?
 
I'm not convinced that we've passed any tipping point regarding the climate, but I think we've gotten ourselves into a mess by breeding like rabbits. Everyone knows that overpopulation in the animal world leads to starvation and displacement of other species, and yet we insist on believing that there must be some other cause behind it when humans go hungry, or invade the habitat of some creature or other.

I believe that humans will become extinct on this Earth, but that human consciousness will survive because it's not dependant on the human body or the Earth for its existance.

My thoughts on reproduction: there's way too much of it. I decided a long time ago not to replace myself on this Earth. My family has a high rate of genetically transferred diseases, so in an act of self-imposed eugenics I decided to let my DNA die with me. It seems like the kindest and most responsible thing to do. If the human race were in need of warm bodies, rather than in a crises of over-population, my choice would probably have been different.
 
We are not advanced enough as a species to do anything about how we affect the climate or reproduction. I believe this is all too obvious.
The species will, sometime in the future, come to an end. Whether by the volitility of the planet or an asteroid or from each other.
I'm not convinced consciousness dies. I'm one of those that believes the cosmos is consciousness. How can anything exist without consciousness? Is that possible?
 
All species have a beggining as well as an eventual end. The glory of life can be seen in the evolution of species. Some say that the wooly mammoth has become extinct. I see the wooly mammoth every time I look at an elephant. Species that become extinct merely evolve into one that is better suited for survival in its' current environment. Since the climate of Earth viewed in geologicic chronology is constantly changing. If the planet's climate were to become drastically cooler, perhaps those adaptations that allowed the wooly to thrive (heavy fur, large tuskes, immense stature), perhaps these adaptations would reintroduce themselves into the gene pool. Where I am going with this? A species never becomes extinct. There culture and way of life CAN. And the American way of life has become one of disparity. There was a time when I was proud to say that I was an American. If we wish to expand our culture, thereby preventing its' extinciton, we must first expand our minds.
 
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