Tuesday, January 03, 2006

 

Swingers and soccer moms

Do you think a hotel is obligated to inform soccer parents that a group of swingers are also booked for the night to avoid a situation like the one that took place in Orlando over the holidays?

Comments:
bwahahahahahaha! Best news article I've read so far today!

As far as the question at hand, no, I don't think the hotel should have any obligation not to book both at the same time. "Freedom of expression" and all that aside, my guess is that if the parents were really so very worried about their precious children's psyches then what were the _children_ doing running around the hotel, peering through windows at people dancing naked to begin with? Shouldn't they have been safely nestled into their rooms, doing schoolwork or watching cartoons or some other such wholesome activity?

Yes, I'm being somewhat sarcastic here. But as a parent myself I can say that there is not really a good reason that the "children", most of which (judging from the article) were not preschoolers by any means should be traumatized by seeing a few naked people. Yes, people get naked. It's a part of life. You're even naked under your clothes! Oh my! *Rolls eyes*

I think people could worry more about more important things aside from teenagers, or nearly teenagers, seeing some naked people.
 
Oh boy, that was great!

Being a former resident of Orlando this doesn't surprise me at all. In fact, I'm surprised something like this doesn't happen all the time there.

Swinger's money is green too. Hotels aren't and shouldn't be obliged to say anything about their guests to other guests. The soccer group should have exercised due diligence especially when booking into a hotel over New Years. That, and maybe ease up on the Neo-Victorianism.

The best part of the article was when Mr. Camporini was quoted as having had to [cue the "Every Sperm is Sacred" song] “delicately explain to my Catholic school children that swingers change partners during the evening.”
 
There's no legal obligation, I don't suppose. However, by not informing the soccer moms of the other party, the hotel has basically approves the behavior of the swingers. I think that if the hotel felt they had any personal responsibility to safeguarding kids (which would portray them as a business with values, ha!), they would have informed the parents. On a PR level, they should have told them since it's not good business to drive away customers. On a couple levels, it probably would've been beneficial to the hospital to say something.

But again, it really depends on personal values. The hotel obviously didn't feel the swingers were too inappropriate for the families, or didn't even think about it.

I personally believe that they should have informed parents. Call me conservative, but that kind of indecent exposure isn't necessary for the kids. While they may not be traumatized, it will still influence how they view the world as they grow up. Whether seeing swingers is for the good or bad...I won't even try to dive into that.
 
The hotel should have had better standards of dress and behavior in common areas or appropriately placed drapes. The swingers could have been more discreet too...part of freedom being "your right to swing(haha) your arm ends where another person's nose begins."
I don't think they needed to inform anyone about anything though.
This is an "anything goes" kind of world. Concerned persons can check out the hotel's itinerary more carefully if they are concerned.
Just another indication of the general self-centerdness of all persons involved.
 
Regqarding this quote from the article: "'We’re not prudes by any means,' said Rob Young of Greenville, S.C." ... who but a prude would ever say such a thing? If only public nudity and polygamous sexual practices were the most "disturbing" things our children should ever encounter. I'd rather explain swingers to my daughter than injustice, rape, murder or war.
 
Obligation to inform, maybe not. But definately wise and helpful. To inform the swingers about the soccer kids, of course; when I'm swinging I don't fancy a bunch of voyeurs.
 
hell no.
 
It would have been good manners for the swingers to invite the soccer moms to join in.
 
The person in the article mentioned "this was not the Las Vegas strip." I've been to Vegas so many times I can't count them & have never seen this & know Vegas is conscious & protective of children.
Evidently Orlando is not & doesen't care.
As far as being obligated, it depends on if they knew this was going to happen. I would have felt morally obligated & would have offered to refund thier money & obtain a reservation at another hotel.
Regardless of how I feel about looking at naked women, I totally understand how many other people would feel in a situation like this.
AS far as the person that said the kids should have been in the room- thats absurd. When we stayed in hotels the kids out swimming, looking in the shops, & eating.
People should learn that one of the greatest words to follow in the English language is "reasonable". Just be reasonable & almost anything can work out for the best.
 
As a native Floridian from a tourist town, Daytona, I have seen the fruits of the chamber of commerce first hand for years. Whenever a town advertises itself as a fun filled destination it is going to draw all kinds of people from every walk of life and every social strata. As I grew up I watched and participated in, many Spring Break parties, race weeks, bike weeks, and summer and winter vacation events. I was always amazed that the cream of the collegiate crop could always be counted on to kill several of themselves trying to jump into swimming pools from 5 stories ar crawl from balcony to balcony with a beer in their hand. As the hotels have evolved into condos ch anymore. The race crowds fill us up and the bikers have relocated here it seems sometime. Orlando has grown and now is the attraction. A couple of years ago when my catholic son was swimming for Father Lopez we stayed in an Orlando hotel during a state level meet. There were kids all over having shaving parties which probably looked very odd to some of the other guests, and at the same time there was a gay convention in the hotel. I was probably more uncomfortable than the kids when I got in the elevator and at the next floor three guys in short leather pants wearing lipstick got on. The kids all though had a real hoot over it. They thought the gays were hilarious with their cute little outfits and teased us more moderate parents mercilessly. Don't worry about what the kids see in real life, worry more about what the TV and Music media are conditioning them to think and how to behave.
 
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